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1 Alliances and where we stand on Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:13 pm

Where do we stand? Pro-Eden,CoT ect.
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2 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:21 pm

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personally, I stand at a Pro-EDEN view point, and I'm pretty sure a number of other members do as well

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3 Re:Alliances and where we stand on Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:39 pm

If anyone feels different speak up here and state why please. I think you are right with everyone i think being Pro-EDEN.
I am just trying to make sure we Iron out details so we don't fumble around in game and look silly.

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4 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:46 pm

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I understand

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5 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:56 pm

hell no I'm all about ONE... lol in complete honesty i'd love to see us move towards ASGARD but it's not going to happen so my next choice is EDEN

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6 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:35 am

I am Pro-Eden. I am not anti-Asgard, but our traditional allies are in Eden and in two separate surveys, the eCan population has favoured Eden over any other ally. All this said, I believe we should also be pushing hard to improve eCan/eUS relations... I would go so far as to say that, that is our most pressing foreign relations issue.

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7 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:47 pm

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actually, I am personally fine with the current eCanada/eUS relations. As long as we each ignore each other, I'm fine. Before, we were basically dragged into every conflict along with them. That being said, I also understand why we would aim to have that type of relationship with them, as we don't have many battles in the first place. I don't know, the eUS/eCanada relations, I'm on the fence with.

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8 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:11 pm

I'm pro-EDEN. However,regarding eCAN-eUSA relations,Mann has a good point there,but i'd have to agree with Quimbie on this one.We should push hard to improve our relations.



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9 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:20 am

Mann551 wrote:actually, I am personally fine with the current eCanada/eUS relations. As long as we each ignore each other, I'm fine. Before, we were basically dragged into every conflict along with them. That being said, I also understand why we would aim to have that type of relationship with them, as we don't have many battles in the first place. I don't know, the eUS/eCanada relations, I'm on the fence with.
I think that, if we got in a big enough war, that they would help us. I'm not sure with some of other allies, though.

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10 Alliances on Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:04 pm

Hi all

I am all pro EDEN and building stronger bonds with the Asgard alliance.
But I dont want too become some small pet for EDEN just because eCanada is a small country and all that.

With a big alliance as EDEN we can have allot of help in times of need, but we can also be the country that never gets any help because other countries always needs more help. (do get my point) Smile
With a smaller alliance as ASGARD we can all be heard and we can make a point but we are not as strong as we can be in EDEN.

So we need too know if we push for getting in too the EDEN alliance are the voice of eCanda gone be heard or is it the "old" countries that will be heard and we will just be pets.

Same question concerning the ASGARDS... Lets send some smooth talking ppl too EDEN and ASGAD and let them have a talk about our thoughts and so on.. Smile

English isn't my native language so I am sorry for typos and bad spelling.. Smile

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11 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:19 pm

lapp3n hey great to see your option on forum, and another person who doesn't think I'm crazy for liking ASGARD! i agree if we get people into congress we should work on getting in contact with them leaders of asgard and I'm sure we already have good contact with EDEN, if not I'm scared for canada pirat

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12 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:52 am

ragalanow_jadon wrote:lapp3n hey great to see your option on forum, and another person who doesn't think I'm crazy for liking ASGARD! i agree if we get people into congress we should work on getting in contact with them leaders of asgard and I'm sure we already have good contact with EDEN, if not I'm scared for canada pirat

I am pro EDEN but I am also open minded too other alliances.

If we become members of EDEN we might as well just become EDEN´s pets just because EDEN is a large alliance with many "old" countries speaking loud and high for themselves.
On the other hand EDEN has allot of power when that power is used in a united form as one unit.
I do know that in such a large gathering of countries there will always be nagging and whining because there will always be ppl that "feels" like they always fight some others wars and never gets any help in their wars.
Just look at Greece for example, how much damage drain dont you think EDEN has lost because of the war with eTurkey??

I am all pro EDEN but I also know that EDEN must become more united inside the EDEN walls, cause if they do get more united EDEN will become a dangerous alliance.

Then we have ASGARDS that is a new and small alliance but pretty strong when united.
If we join ASGARDS our voice can be heard and we can get our voice heard and there isn't so much whining and nagging due too the size of the alliance. On the other hand the ASGARD isn't as powerful ofc as EDEN if we ever need their help, but i do think they would try too help as much as they can. And this alliance might grown bigger in the future.

So each alliance has its good and bad. I think we should send in some political negotiator already and start talking with ASGARD and EDEN about it pros and cons and that we as party has thoughts about joining when we start ruling eCanada.. Gather some intel already.. Wink

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13 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:42 am

Hmm, nice topic at first..
I am not Pro-EDEN oriented because I don't fully like current situation in the country. That's because we don't have any direct war and that's the reason why life in eCanada is becoming a bit tedious.
I think we should me more active in that field.
At least we can make some friendly war with Ireland like we did for halloween.
And why I am not Pro-EDEN oriented is mainly because I don't see that Canada is conquering anything. I know that we aren't such a strong country on military point of view but still I think there is a lot weaker countries that we submit..

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14 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:00 am

You could do that, but, personally, I think that how we don't have any wars makes us better than the other countries, like Macedonia, that are almost constantly in war.

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15 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:28 am

We can always look towards ASGARD alliance. I do know that ASGARD would welcome eCanada in too their alliance if eCanda would like that.
It depends on the attitude from eCanadas spokesmen in the matter ofc.

It is not a strong alliance but we might get our voices heard.
A war towards eUK would maybe then be the war we are looking for, with help from ASGARD and even eIrland if we play our cards right.

So what do we as a party stand for in the matter of alliances??
Start talking with eIrland and other countries right now and dont wait, do all this in "stealth mode" so that the other parties dont know what we are doing. Then when we put OUR CP on post we make our move and show em all that we are THE party for a long time here in eCanda.

But we must start too make our manifest to make our voices heard, make a stand, show them who we are and what we stand for!

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16 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:10 am

Lapp3n wrote:

But we must start too make our manifest to make our voices heard, make a stand, show them who we are and what we stand for!


I think that the problem about our manifest is practically over.We got a rough sketch of our manifest thanks to Mann,and i've added some paragraphs too.Frankly,in my opinion,that manifest looks great.

As for alliances, and foreign affairs in general,i think that we need to coordinate them with our policy.We are THE Imperialists,so in accordance with our name and policy we should join the alliance which is gonna give us the most chances to expand our country.

''3.1.3.5 To work on expanding, and supporting a policy of extending our national borders whenever possible.''



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17 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:32 am

I think that being a part of EDEN is pointless..

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18 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:16 am

mislilac wrote:I think that being a part of EDEN is pointless..

Well we must see the pros and cons with the alliances, as i wrote in some earlier memos.
Maybe we should see what the people of IPC thinks about joining ASGARD or EDEN with a poll, just too see the overall thinking in the party.

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19 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:16 am

good thinking, we have to get our lottery done, then PP elections would be our next big thing but if i win PP elections (which i probably won't but oh well lol) i would be tabling this issue after manifesto and cabinet.

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20 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:32 pm

If you guys are hoping to expand our influence and national borders, personally I think we should take a "No Alliance Stand." When I say this I mean that we should have alliances (obviously), but we should form our own rather then stick to a specific one and be tied down to our (their) goals.

Rather, I suggest we support and nurture small, fragile nations and resistant movements (Netherlands, Portugal, Australia, Denmark). That way it'll be cheap to help them out and we have all the benefits of loyal soldiers. It'll be easy to use those regions as operative bases to expand our nations influence as well. PTO's should also be used when necessary.

Regarding eCan-eAmer Affairs, I agree that we should push for stronger relations, but with the war against Taiwan, I feel that we could end up being dragged into unnecessary situations.

Nations I'm thinking of: Saudi Arabia, Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand, Cyprus, Portugal, Denmark, Belgium and perhaps even the Korea's. With pockets of loyalists we could use them to our advantage, helping them out but as well as helping our own objectives.

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21 Re: Alliances and where we stand on Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:20 am

I have been talking with the eSwedish part of ASGARD and of the eSwedish MU´s had eCanada vs eUK as DO the whole day 1854.
I might have sent "dear brothers and sister" PM too some of the MU leaders i know for assistance but they gladly helped eCanada out as much as they could.

This can be written as a political argument in a newspaper that ASGARD has a friendly attitude towards eCanada and its citizens. And might also consider eCanada as a new part of ASGARD if eCanada is positive too that and starts too talk on a higher level with each other about this.

This is a good platform too get some discussions about eCanadas future and maybe people sees us and thinks we are a good party too bring this up as a political question.
We can also underline our work in getting "friends" too aid us in need and so on.
Use this in a newspaper and show everyone how we in IPC works for eCanada in a positive way.. santa
*Why don´t we and eIrland have an MPP btw*


It is all about politics!.. king

//Lapp3n

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